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Today, we’re talking to Sebastien Devaud, known as “Agoria,” or Seb. Agoria is a DJ, producer, and artist whose 2024 was a big one. He released a new album “Unshadow” in the fall, exhibited his interactive artistic practice at the Musee D’Orsay in the spring, and performed a DJ set right in the nave of those hallowed halls as well as at the closing ceremonies of the Paris Olympic Games.
When we spoke with Agoria, or “Seb” as he said I could call him, he had just released his first audio-generative project on Tezos blockchain. It’s an experimental song made with Nile Rodgers and Madison McFerrin that is unique every time you hit play. It stemmed from the idea of making music rare again, getting back to the magic of music, that feeling of listening to something for the very first time, like finding a rare recording at a vinyl store back when he was a kid growing up in a small town in France.


Having had the pleasure of interviewing Seb before, what I love about him is that he’s an artist with a capital A. There are no boundaries. It’s not just about music, or sculpture, or performance, or generative art. As he describes it on Monday with a neuroscientist, on Tuesday with a biophysicist, on Wednesday with his family, and on Thursday with his friends.
He regularly collaborates with scientists to create biological generative art and sound that have revealed the microscopic cellular activity’s connection to the macroscopic universe. He’s sent his music into space to make contact with the aliens. He’s unendingly curious – just like the best artists and scientists out there. Join us as we talk about it all, including how he convinced the director of the Musee d’Orsay to throw a real party.
Notable Insights


“How can we go back to the moment where you get the vinyl, you put the vinyl on your turntable, and you sit down and start to listen to the whole vinyl? It was kind of something ceremonial.”
“That’s the main pleasure of making music. It’s not actually to release, it’s not to make a hit, it’s wow, just forgetting about yourself.”
“AI is fantastic to suggest you things, to awaken you and drive you in areas you wouldn’t have thought of before. But that’s not the final output for sure, it’s just a direction.”
“Rave parties were the last place of liberty that Earth knew because it was out of any control of politics, out of any rules. People were just here to be together and reinvent the world.”
“Music is absolutely everywhere. Nobody cares about music, nobody sees music as art. The beauty of blockchain is to help us go back to a moment where music becomes a bit more rare, more intimate, more authentic.”
Resources
To learn more about Agoria, visit HERE.
Listen to his new album Unshadow HERE.
Read our stories on Agoria HERE and HERE.